Hi!

Zuerst von allen, es tut mir leid, aber ich weiß nicht Deutsch, so werde ich in Englisch schreiben : P

I'm Spanish, from the beautiful island of Mallorca which I think lots of you will know really well. I'm after my first camper and I really love the Ford Nugget. I would love to be able to buy a new one but unfortunately my budget is not that high. I have found a secondhand Nugget in Spain which was imported in Germany in 2010. It's a Nugget MK7 from 2007, 2.2 TDCi 130hp; when it was imported from Germany it had 50.000km, at the moment it has 120.000km.

I don't know much about mechanics so I have been heaps of researching about it... what a surprise what I read! I have found in the Spanish, English and this forum that there have been a lot of engines (Duratorq 2.2 TDCi 130hp & 140hp - Puma) which have broken down, meaning a new engine or what it's worst, 9000€.

Now I'm quite concern about buying this Nugget and I would like to know if all of you have had problems or, on the other hand, there are more engines working fine than not. Do any of you have the Nugget from 2007 with the 2.2 TDCi 130hp with more than 120.000km and without this massive problem? Am I buying a lottery ticket? Any advice?

These are the Nugget details:

Primary Features
Build Date: 23.02.2007
Vehicle Line: Transit 2006-2014
Cab Style: Kombi (M1)
Series: 300S Series
Engine: 2.2L Duratorq-TDCi (130PS) - Puma
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual Transaxle - VXT75
Drive: LHD FWD
Axle Ratio: 4.54
Emission: Stage IV Emissions
Air Conditioning: Manual Air Conditioning
Territory: (+)"D"
Paint: Magnum Grey (Metallic)


I really really appreciate your help!!!!

Thanks!!

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Ich bin spanisch, von der schönen Insel Mallorca, die ich glaube, viele von Ihnen wissen, wirklich gut. Ich bin nach meinem ersten Camper und ich liebe die Ford Nugget. Ich würde gerne in der Lage sein, ein neues zu kaufen, aber leider ist mein Budget nicht so hoch. Ich habe einen gebrauchten Nugget in Spanien gefunden, der 2010 in Deutschland eingeführt wurde. Es ist ein Nugget MK7 ab 2007, 2.2 TDCi 130hp; Wenn es aus Deutschland importiert wurde, hatte es 50.000km, im Moment hat es 120.000km.

Ich weiß nicht viel über Mechanik, so habe ich Haufen von Recherchen über sie ... was für eine Überraschung, was ich gelesen habe! Ich habe in der spanischen, englischen und diesem Forum gefunden, dass es eine Menge von Motoren (Duratorq 2.2 TDCi 130hp & 140hp - Puma), die nach unten, was bedeutet, einen neuen Motor oder was es am schlechtesten ist, 9000 €.

Jetzt bin ich ganz Sorge über das Kaufen dieses Nugget und ich möchte wissen, wenn alle von Ihnen Probleme gehabt haben, oder andererseits gibt es mehr Maschinen, die fein arbeiten, als nicht. Hat jemand von euch den Nugget ab 2007 mit dem 2.2 TDCi 130hp mit mehr als 120.000km und ohne dieses massive Problem? Bekomme ich ein Lotterielos? Irgendein Rat?

Dies sind die Nugget-Details:

Hauptmerkmale
Erstellungsdatum: 23.02.2007
Fahrzeug Linie: Transit 2006-2014
Kabinenausführung: Kombi (M1)
Serie: Serie 300S
Motor: 2.2L Duratorq-TDCi (130PS) - Puma
Getriebe: 5-Gang-Schaltgetriebe Transaxle - VXT75
Antrieb: LHD FWD
Achsverhältnis: 4,54
Emission: Stufe IV Emissionen
Klimaanlage: Manuelle Klimaanlage
Gebiet: (+) "D"
Farbe: Magnum Grey (Metallic)


Ich schätze wirklich Ihre Hilfe !!!!

Vielen Dank!!


Gruß Nuggethenry

Hi!

Nice place to live...

The 130cv engines do not seem to have a serial engine problem. The youngest cars with these engines are 8-9 years old. Of course some engine breakdowns came up after all these years.

The most breakdowns occurred with some of the 140cv engines.
My Nugget had been built in 2010, is equipped with this engine and never had any Problem. Mileage: 101.000 Km.
There are much more 140cv engines around with no problems than there are broken down ones. So I would not be afraid to buy a 140cv Nugget again.
Buying a VW Golf TSI and having an engine breakdown soon is much more likely...

As far as I am concerned the engine problems come up if a 140cv engine is used rarely and, if used, with heavy load on board and at low Speeds.
Clogged injectors together with pistons too weak for heavy weight / low revs / much throttle seem to be the most probable reasons for an uncontrolled injection of Diesel and then immediately occuring extremly high revs. The engine then cannot be stopped by switching of the ignition anymore and then over-revs and breaks.

Cars that are used regularly and not only at low revs do not seem to have this problem as often as cars only used in the holiday season at low Speed and heavily loaded.
Mine is a daily driver. We use the car on the Autobahn occasionally and then drive it at 3.000 rpm / 160 Km/h. The engine is healthy, fires up right away and runs smoothly.

However, a definite reason has not been discovered by now.
There had been several updates from Ford which are supposed to make sense putting on.

The car you are interested in is 10 years old. So I would look after rust thorughly. It had been used in Germany, so salt on the road is an issue also for this vehicle.
It should have seen regular maintenance of course and all the Camping stuff (fridge, heater, lights, charger, 2nd battery, bed, seat) should work properly.
Check everything you would check at a normal used car. if have no idea how to do that, bring a mechanic to look at it before you buy it!

Overall the Ford Transit is a very reliable van, as Long as it is treated well. I never had a car that was cheaper in maintenance.

Good luck!

M.

Hi,

thank you very much for your quick response!

The camper equipment works perfectly and the van itself seems to be in perfect condition. Next week a Ford mechanic will check the van to see if he sees anything 'weird'. I have been told though that even connecting the van to the computer or through the VIN number they can't find out anything... unfortunately it feels like it is just a matter of being lucky or unlucky.

I would love to hear more experiences from you guys, if there was anyone with a 2007 130hp model around who hasn't experienced any issue it would be great to know!

Thanks!

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Hallo,

Vielen Dank für Ihre schnelle Antwort!

Die Camper-Ausrüstung funktioniert einwandfrei und der Van selbst scheint in einwandfreiem Zustand zu sein. Nächste Woche wird ein Ford-Mechaniker den Van überprüfen, um zu sehen, ob er irgendetwas "seltsam" sieht. Ich habe zwar gesagt, dass sogar die Verbindung der van mit dem Computer oder durch die VIN-Nummer können sie nicht finden, etwas ... leider fühlt es sich an, wie es nur eine Frage der Glück oder Unglück ist.

Ich würde gerne mehr Erfahrungen von euch zu hören, wenn es jemand mit einem 2007 130hp-Modell um, wer hat keine Frage erlebt es wäre toll zu wissen!

Vielen Dank!

Hi!

Flocke´s comment explains it quite well.

Regarding the OBD: of course you cannot read the status of injectors (unless they are "dead") or pistons. A certain degree of wear occurs anyway while years and miles go by.

I would refrain from using Diesel-additives and cheap Dieselfuel. I guess in Spain there should also be two kinds of Dieselfuel available: "normal" and "premium", however the respective oil companies may call it.
The use of "premium" Diesel in frequent intervals can extend the lifetime of injectors and vehicle heater.
By the way: fire up the heater every 3 or 4 weeks.

Should your engine blow and Flocke´s hints for the proper reaction to it been observed, a garage specializing in Diesel engine overhaul should be able to fix the engine for 2.500 - 3.000 €.

Hence, even if your engine should break down, which is quite unlikely, the Ford will still be much cheaper than a Volkswagen T5, which costs more to buy and maintain and also showed a lot of defective engines.

I think the key to a long life of a Diesel engine is proper maintenance and use.
Change the engine oil once a year. If you use the car on short haul a lot, Change engine oil and filter every 10.000 Km.
Change the oil of the gear box every 80.000 Km.
After starting the car cold in the morning, drive slowly and avoid high revs.
After long, fast rides, allow the engine to cool off by going at low revs for the last couple of minutes.
Use the car frequently. Do not let it sit for month.

Regards,
M.

Once again, thank you all!

I'm still struggling finding someone who has a 2.2 TDCi 130hp for more than 120.000km without having had the pistons problem...

I don't think it's the best option buying my first camper and keep thinking it could break down at any time. I'm still going to take it to the mechanic to see whether he can find something new or not.

Thanks!

Hallo, vicMoo

I translated it
hab´s mal schnell übersetzt

Ich bin immer noch am kämpfen, jemanden zu finden,
der einen 2.2 TDCi 130 Ps mit mehr als 120.000 km hat ,
ohne dass die Kolben Probleme hatten ...:
(Ich glaube nicht, dass es die beste Option ist, meinen ersten Camper und kaufen und zu denken, er könnte zu jeder Zeit kaputt gehen.)
Ich werde noch zum den Mechaniker gehen um zu sehen, ob er etwas Neues finden oder nicht finden kann.
Vielen Dank!